Is the Commodities Bull Market Over?
The dramatic price decline of most commodities over the last five weeks brought some analysts to call for the end of the bull market in commodities; their conclusion is that commodities have reached a turning point and a bigger price decline awaits us. Are they right? Let's see how commodities have done this year.
In the table below, the main commodities are arranged by group and last price; the price at the end of 2007 and the maximum price of each commodity in the year 2008 are also given. In addition, the price change from 2008 maximum value and the price change from the beginning of the year are calculated.
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From the table above, we can see that after a very sharp rise this year, which caused strong protest all over the world, most commodities have, on average, almost returned to their price at the beginning of the year.
Price change of main commodities from the beginning of the year
Price decline of main commodities from their maximum value in the year 2008
Many analysts explain the recent sharp decline in the price of commodities by the strengthening of the dollar, because the price of commodities is denominated in dollars. Naturally, the dollar and commodities move in opposite directions, but that cannot explain such a big decline in the price of commodities, since the dollar has risen only by 6.44% from its lowest value of all time against the euro - 1.60 on July 15th 2008 - and commodities have shown a much bigger move - a decline of 26% on average.
In our opinion, the recent fall of commodity prices is not due to a change in the basic fundamentals of supply and demand, but rather to a shift in the sentiment of investors. The fact that the US economy is slowing was known also in the first half of the year; nevertheless, commodity prices rose sharply during this period. It seems that after enjoying huge gains in the commodity markets, fund managers and other investors have closed their positions, and even went short after reaching the conclusion that "the party is over".
According to Jim Rogers, the famous commodities guru, commodity prices move in cycles of about 18 years, and since the current bull market started at 2002, he expects it to last until about 2020. Rogers explains the cyclic nature of the commodities market by the fact that when the demand for commodities and prices are low, no one is willing to invest in new mines, start oil explorations or increase cultivation areas. However, when shortage is felt and prices are moving up, that is when companies start looking to increase production; but it takes years to begin a new exploration or develop new mines, so that the supply shortage which is accompanied by high prices can last for a long time. If we accept his theory, the recent decline in commodity prices should now give us an opportunity to enter this market at the right time.
In view of the basic fundamentals of supply and demand, the market is still very tight, inventories of agriculture products are historically low, the oil supply has stayed almost the same, and the mine supply of precious metals from South Africa is dropping because of a shortage in the electricity supply. All this brings us to the conclusion that the recent decline in commodity prices is a healthy correction to the commodity bull market that is still going on.
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DougM
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enviro111
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epeon
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Pipo
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Aug 11 05:56 PM-
xtronics
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Aug 11 05:58 PMSee 8/10/2008 at blog.nowandfutures.com...
With M3 at an amazing high - government spending out of control, I would expect some inflation to push commodities up further. It may be true there is no such thing as "peak oil" but there is something I call "peak cheap oil" ad I think we are there. China has a huge number of factories shut down and cars off the road - I would expect things to get interesting again after the Olympics are over and their demand back up.
There is also the fact that all stops are pulled out to paper over everything for the election.
What is less clear is the lead-weight of the mortgage situation - I see resets causing trouble out to 20012 - see:
www.therealestateblogg.../
and
online.wsj.com/article...
The question is - will this drag on the economy push down so hard for so long that it will destroy demand?
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starkoski
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Aug 11 08:32 PM-
dollar bull****
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Aug 11 11:04 PM-
mkreisel
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Aug 11 11:30 PMThose idiots must be slaughtered first.
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dollar bull****
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Aug 12 12:56 AM-
Bob'29
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Aug 12 03:09 AM-
MarkMedayski
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Aug 12 07:30 AMBefore one invest in hard assets,make your research what each commodity means and where it stands in the crowd as all can not go only up.
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Salman Khan
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Aug 12 08:13 AM-
john s. gordon
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Aug 12 08:15 AM> jack
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Boubou
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Aug 12 09:53 AMA regular person without influence, inside knowledge or an excess of wealth over his needs, should obviously steer clear of gambling on any securities at all. Without exceptional luck you will lose wealth and the industry will gain it.
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wannaBillion
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Aug 12 10:42 AM-
wannaBillion
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LoveShorting
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Bob Gary
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Brahm
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Aug 12 12:28 PMConditions have changed dramatically. There are many more consuming nations growing at very high rates, and demanding supply to respond to growing consumption rates and even still much higher investment rates for development of national infrastructure for which some of these commodities are essential.. At the same time.available new resource sources are of lower quality and smaller squantity with regard to total extraction potential. Nationalism is also rampant now, and access to these new sources is not that easy or even attrative as it used to be quite often. Long lead in relation to the urgency of demand for developing known projects are almost legend now.
Intuitively I surmise the changed circumstances and conditions should have a profound effect on the applicability of Jim Rodger's commodity cycle theory in the context of the prevalent reality.. I agree with the author that the fundamentals are still there, and at this moment sentiment is a better explanation for the major part of the recent slide in commodities.
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MiningOilGasGuru
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Aug 12 12:58 PMFundamentally I agree that commodities are still very much bullish. I read another couple articles today on similar topic to yours.
On TradersCorner, this post agrees that fundamentally, Oil and Gas are bullish:
www.traderscorner.ca/c...
Secondly, a post on the Stock Research Portal Blog by Ian Campbell questions whether Oil statistics are meaningful, and if meaningless oil
statistics are the reason we see so many price swings in the Oil market.
www.stockresearchporta......
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MiningOilGasGuru
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Aug 12 01:00 PMFundamentally I agree that commodities are still very much bullish. I read another couple articles today on similar topic to yours.
On TradersCorner, this post agrees that fundamentally, Oil and Gas are bullish:
www.traderscorner.ca/c...
Secondly, a post on the Stock Research Portal Blog by Ian Campbell questions whether Oil statistics are meaningful, and if meaningless oil
statistics are the reason we see so many price swings in the Oil market.
www.stockresearchporta.../
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Pipo
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Aug 12 01:59 PMjimrogers-investments....
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Francis Schutte
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Aug 12 04:29 PM-
Polaris
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Aug 12 05:34 PMTake your data on corn prices you report a price per bushel of $455.5 for end 2007.
BUT the USA National Agricultural Staistic Service put it at only $4
Now that is one hell of a difference.
The price does show some seasonality - you must compare July 2007 with July 2008 or else it is meaningless.
You should also note that the long term trend from $12/Bu in 1950 to $3/BU in 2000 in terms of $2001. The recent increases merely restore the profitability of the farming industry after years of decline.
We need that profitability improvement to encourage more food production.
We need the current prices of fwertilizer to encourage expansion offertilizer production. New mines will not be developed without the cash flow from sales at current prices.
Please do not waste our time with phoney and inaccurate data and selective time series that are grossely misleading.
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surgcare
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Aug 12 08:32 PM-
YogiG
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Aug 12 09:30 PMHowever, get ready, the bad boyes of WS jsut bought inot the new Dubai Oil Futres Exchange - now they can begin to 'manipulate' beyond the reach of the CFTC shortly....
Round II begins early next year.
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aitvaras
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AgTrader
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Aug 13 09:26 AM-
DaveinHackensack
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Aug 13 10:46 AMJim Rogers has said the current secular bull market in commodities started in 1999, not 2002, and I don't recall him definitively saying he expects it to last until 2020. He's usually more careful in his statements. He has said that, historically, the shortest such secular bull market in commodities last 15 years, and the longest lasted 23. If that history is a guide, the current secular bull market could last until 2014 or longer.