As the Solar Power International conference continued Wednesday in San Diego, solar stocks continue to lose ground in the face of ongoing concerns about both the ongoing credit crunch and the possibility of a steep drop in pricing in 2009.
Deutsche Bank’s Steve O’Rourke observed in a research note Wednesday morning that while companies expect some negative impact from tighter credit in 2009, “quantification is presently impossible.” On pricing, he notes that most solar module companies continue to forecast a price decline in 2009 of under 10% - but he says that a drop of more than 20% is “increasingly likely.”
Writes O’Rourke: “The over-arching, unanswerable question is one of potential demand destruction in 2009 due to the present credit crisis. No one knows, and no company was willing to offer any kind of quantification. The common belief seems to be that it will be slightly to moderately negative.”
UBS analyst Stephen Chin wrote Wednesday morning that solar projects are largely on track, with financing still available given attractive internal rates of return of over 8%. But he agrees with O’Rourke that pricing is likely to drop 20% in 2009.
Gordon Johnson, an analyst with Hapoalim Securities, said many of the solar module suppliers he talked to continue to say that there will little impact on their business from the credit crisis - and that ASPs next year are likely to drop less than 10%. But Johnson thinks the companies are too optimistic: like the Deutsche Bank and UBS analysts, he sees pricing coming down 20% next year. He also advises not reading too much into Q3 results, given the lower availability of credit and higher risk premiums being demanded by project finance companies. “We are not drinking the Kool-Aid.”
One other point: Johnson in a report Tuesday took note of a presentation at the conference by Ed Feo, a partner at law firm Milbank Tweed who co-chairs its project finance and energy practice. Feo gave a talk at the Solar Power conference on the state of the alternative energy project finance sector which has some negative implications for the solar sector.
In an e-mail in response to a query from Tech Trader Daily, Feo notes that the tax equity market for renewable energy projects is currently constrained by the credit crisis. He points out that some of the institutions that provided such financing are out of business - like Lehman - or have reorganized - like AIG - while others are either capital constrained or now have such a reduced tax position that they are no longer participating in the market, like Morgan Stanley.
Feo notes that in the tax equity market, the financing providers are limited to U.S. public companies with federal tax bills. They invest in companies which own the qualifying assets - whether solar or wind - and receive the allocation of virtually all of the tax benefits, both tax credits and accelerated depreciation. “If the proposed investor doesn’t expect to have a tax appetite, it won’t invest,” he explains, potentially leaving a big hole in a given project’s capital structure.
Feo says a number of tax equity investors are backing away from the market. Feo says he has heard estimates that the capacity coming into next year will be about $3 billion, compared with actual funding of $6 billion last year, and what was an expected funding this year of $11 billion, though that number now appears to high. Next year, projected demand is for funding of $8 billion to $12 billion. “So it’s a problem,” he says.
So what does that mean for the solar sector? Feo says that since the economics of PV electric production “is already tight,” he believes one or more of the following will occur:
- Manufacturers will reduce their costs.
- Installers will reduce their costs.
- Developers will reduce their returns.
- Or fewer projects will get built.
In Wednesday’s trading:
- First Solar (FSLR) closed down $19.59, or 13.7%, to $123.52.
- Evergreen Solar (ESLR) closed down 60 cents, or 14.6%, to $3.51.
- Energy Conversion Devices (ENER) closed down $7.37, or 16.3%, to $37.78.
- SunPower (SPWRA) closed down $8.79, or 17.7%, to $40.94.
- Suntech (STP) closed down $4.15, or 16.6%, to $20.85.
- Canadian Solar (CSIQ) closed down $2.21, or 17.6%, to $10.37.
- LDK Solar (LDK) closed down $2.89, or 13.2%, to $18.97.
- Solarfun (SOLF) closed down 88 cents, or 12.1%, to $6.41.
- GT Solar (SOLR) closed down 90 cents, or 15%, to $5.11.
- MEMC (WFR) closed down $4.35, or 18%, to $19.85.






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i have never seen so many analysts outhinking companies pronouncements then now in the solar sector. i find from my experience that comapnies do a pretty good job of telling it the way they see it. in the solar sector they say pricing should come down 10% analysts think it will be 20% but then on the other hand they think there will be a lack of funding expansion. which is it. governments will step in and do the funding. they will insist banks$250 billion infusion will do the funding. global warming is believed to be real and man made. democrats will mandate investment. the trend in solar is so great. name another industry group with a more positive outlook. maybe this analyst just wants to defeat the stand alone solars so companies like chevron and ge can dominate. like the auto industry in the early years. i dont see the argument as valid.
Comment by gebby - October 15, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Funny how every time they have a solar conference, reports focusing more on the negatives rather than the positives come out one after another. Yes, we are in bleak times and every industry is hurting, but if I had to bet on any industry coming out of the gates first once this crisis is over, it would be solar. I agree with gebby that funding would be mandated soon after the elections are over and I think it will happen regardless of who wins. As for the comment about not reading too much in Q3 results, it appears that positive results over the past several quarters have been ignored altogether or else we wouldn’t see stock prices fall so precipitously this past year. Something else is at work here bringing the industry down may not be that far from the truth.
Comment by Bob - October 15, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Name me one industry that is not affected by this credit crunch. These analysts who made negative comments shoiudl realize all these solar stocks are being traded at 52-week lows or multiple-year lows. Don’t you think the market has already disvcounted that probability. Now the true is, most of these soilar companies and customers have to build out to SAVE. Both Presidential candidates support alternate energy. Don’t kick a dog which is already down. Look ahead. The investors are better off without all these hind-sight analysts who very often have a hidden agenda.
Comment by Raymond - October 15, 2008 at 2:13 pm
First it was the poly silicon cost then the subsidies and now all of that has cleared, it is the demand. Maybe the analyst are being paid by the Big oil to crush the sector. I can’t believe the best performing sector for last 1 year has been brutalized every day by the so called paid analyst. The analyst hedge friends are short on this sector and until they turn long everyday an analyst is going to downgrade another solar stock. Yesterday was JASO today APWR, last week was FSLR and SPRWA. The wall street has become 100 times worst then a casino where small investors don’t have any chance to win.
Comment by Mark Kahn - October 15, 2008 at 2:19 pm
It is easy to talk negatively given the state of the eco. Yes, credit is tight, price could be down 20% etc…But none of them see that if price come down that much==> more affordable, more demand for solar products. Solar companies can even make more money by selling volume not to mention they’ve been more and more efficiency thru cost cutings and innovations.
Comment by solar4earth - October 15, 2008 at 2:54 pm
The analysts in the solar sector have all been wrong so many times before so what is it that would make you think that they have it right now? I don’t pay any attention to these analysts and they are more in the guess business than the research business. Most of the Chinese companies are always sold short yet they are in a better position than their American counterparts simply because of their low labor cost advantages. Suntech’s recent aquisition of EI Solutions in the US will allow further penetration into vertically integrated power solutions with utility companies and unlike residential tax credits stands to be the bigger piece of the pie for increasing market share and unlike the private sector utility companies are well capitalized and are not in the same situation as most other sectors. Yes we can expect credit markets to retract but for how long? None of these analysts can give us a clue and let us not forget that most of the solar companies inventory has already been fulfilled for 2008 and most of it booked for 2009. If the credit markets improve significantly then their will not be a major slow down. Some companies have better vertically integrated solutions like FSLR and Sunpower and now Suntech with their aquisition of EI Solutions. I imagine that some of the solars may not be able to expand simply because of their poor cash flow and some have already raised capital by stock offerings and it remains unprudent to go back to the well and sell more stock as it will surley further depreciate the stock price. Companies like TRINA are hard pressed for cash and do not have the same kind of secured polysilicon contracts as STP. Consolidation could start to take effect in 2009 then again there might be too much demand and the analysts will be wrong again. With ASP’s expected to dip it will be interesting to see how some of the more diversified companies like Suntech will fair in 2009 with Pluto as they have a technology that may not be a game breaking one yet it may offset any decrease in pricing as a result of their ability to convert low grade silicon to higher grades which in turn will significantly improve their margins. Suntech is probably the most diversified solar company in the world and this diversification will bode well in 2009 as BIPV solutions will become more mainstream in large building projects and with their thin film coming on line in the 4th quarter will help offset any major ASP declines in their solar panel business although the 2009 thin film production is modest at 50MW.
I am in it for the long haul and am not a day trader. I see a much brighter future for solar than perhaps most and believe that the growth in solar is still in the beginning phases. For now everyone will agree that the financial markets are in turmoil and it is surely an easy call to say that all businesses will suffer yet the analysts are only trying to save their own asses so I really don’t bother with any have to say about the solar sector for most have been wrong and very few have been right.
Comment by rudy iacono - October 15, 2008 at 3:31 pm
The Governor of California helped to put forth an ENERGY INITIATIVE, or MEASURE 7, if passed, will require gov. owned utilities to generate 20% of their electricity from renewable energy by 2010, to 40% by 2020 and 50% by 2025.
This MEASURE 7 is for the November 4th voting. chance of passing: 50/50. Vote YES.
Comment by Bingie - October 15, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Check out the Nov 4th California ENERGY INITIATIVE, or MEASURE 7, for voters to decide requiring gov utilities
to do with renewable energy up to 50% by 2025.
Vote YES.
Comment by Bingie - October 15, 2008 at 5:40 pm
Anytime a so-called Analyst speaks these days, there is a pretty good chance that Legalized Fraud and Legalized Theft is occurring.
I’ve never heard of Hapoalim Securities and can’t find any evidence that they’ve heretofore uttered even a single word on the Solar Industry. Now- all of a sudden- they are the Go-to Guys that the Short Seller Loving Media outlets want to ram down our throats.
Comment by Rick - October 15, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Are these Analysts or Amateurs? They haven’t thought about a couple of basic things:
1.Yes Pricing will go down, but so does the cost to make in these deflationary times
2.Intel and Dell made less money when they were selling less computers. Again, the point is as someone else also mentioned, the revenue/quantities increase will compensate for the pricing.
Comment by Raj - October 16, 2008 at 3:58 am
Bingle - why Vote yes on Nov 4th when every Solar manufacturer opposes it?
Comment by Consstantine - October 16, 2008 at 7:51 am
Man these analyst never take account of good news for the solar sector. Spain eased so called subsidy cut from 300MW to 500MW. Tax credit passed for 8year in the bailout plan. Come on !!! I am in the sector for long term and 100% sure we will all double or tripple our money… Good Luck !!!
Comment by Krishan - October 16, 2008 at 10:15 am
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Oct 16 03:17 PMSolar Will NOT be funded by any Government until the Current Crisis is in the rear view mirror. Sure, Taxes are favorable but Funding is not in the Hands of the Government, they have not allocated or otherwise provided a timeline whereby Solar will have to provide XYZ of overall electrical generation as China has.
Lets talk Turkey, I say FSLR joins the Low PE Solar stocks within 6 months on the projected average for 2009 earnings of $7 or the mid60's. That my opinion.
Even at that level, it would be twice the PE of say Trina.
Those of you that think that it has nowhere to go but up, post please, I want to be able to take names now while you are still outraged about the irrational slam dunk your Babies are receiving.
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